Is there a Feminine and a Maculine Ego?


of us feel trapped within the
limited roles that the world expect us to
play. We are instantly attracted to those who are
more fluid, more ambiguous, than we are—those who
create their own persona. Dandies excite us because they can-
not be categorized, and hint at a freedom we want for ourselves.
They play with masculinity and femininity; they fashion their
own physical image, which is always startling; they are mysteri-
ous and elusive. They also appeal to the narcissism of each
sex; to a woman they are psychologically female, to a man
they are male. Dandies fascinate and seduce in large
numbers. Use the power of the Dandy to create
an ambiguous, alluring presence that
stirs repressed desires.

                         by Robert Greene-Art of Seduction


I wish I could have heard Emerald's words in "Divine Feminine Integration", 40 years ago,or have been taught this from early youth.

 As for myself being innately "Androgynous", now knowing that for sure,I can at least end that long hard internal battle,and move on with Life, I think this video is a "Must " to listen to,especially those whom feel they are "Androgynous" and in conflict with their "Identity".

Androgyne: The Union of Opposites within


       Most of them are ancient souls, acutely aware of an inherent unity of feminine/female and masculine/male energies and qualities within themselves that manifests as the union of opposites in every area of their lives; the Classical Greeks called them "Androgynes", persons who are both genders in the same body at the same time. Blessed with an existence that they cannot evade or conceal (for very long, without suffering harm), they are both valued and vilified by their fellow humans. They are the subject of myths that predate history, our heritage goes back to the very foundation of the universe, yet, while history has exhibited a perennial fascination (and, oftentimes, an infatuation) with them, humanity has consistently demonstrated a perplexity and misunderstanding about androgynes. This perplexity and misunderstanding frequently promotes adverse social behaviour towards them to such an extent that most of them try to conform to convention and make a sincere, concerted effort to exist in either one realm or another, (i.e. to be either boys or girls, men or women). However, androgynes can't sustain this effort for very long without suffering psychological and emotional harm (which can take decades to heal) and experiencing incomplete, unfulfilled and dissatisying relationships with family, friends and lovers. Although they do not have the vocabulary in early childhood to qualify who they are, most of them are aware they are androgyne by the time they enter primary schooling, (circa 4-5 years old); by that age, their particular struggles with gender conformity have often already begun. They usually give up the search for others like themselves at an early age; it seems this planet is a divided world and is intent on staying that way, so they do their best to adjust to it, to assimilate into the social "norms" of this world, albeit unable to divest themselves of the innate understanding of who they are (or to be truly at peace with such assimilation when it involves self- and/or social denial of their true Nature). Some of them just "bite the bullet" and maintain "the mask" for generations while many of them realize they're indulging in psychological and emotional self-deterioration by maintaining the mask and develop healthy ways of living [harmoniously with the world while being] true to themselves, (most frequently at great social and personal [relationship] expense). Too many of them commit suicide, unable to persist in conformity or to achieve self-liberation. Fortunately, some androgynes are born into families and/or communities/cultures (e.g. most Native American nations) which recognize who they are and encourage them to fully realize their existence and the subtle, powerful gifts they bear for the good of this world.


The androgyne-born community is as diverse as any other human community. They are born into all ethnic groups. They are born female, male or intersexed/hermaphrodite. They are heterosexual and non-heterosexual (all other sexual orientations included). Some androgynes are [female-to-male or male-to-female] transsexual -- the vast majority of them are not, (the ratio is probably relative to the percentage of transsexuals evident within the general population). They are artists and politicians, scientists and sanitation engineers, educators and slackers et al. The primary difference between androgynes and other humans is simply that they do not, indeed cannot live life fully as either men or woman because they are and must live as both genders, (regardless which restroom they use). As you might imagine, (if you are not an androgyne), this isn't easy. Imagine sawing yourself in half, from crown to crotch, then trying to get about in the world with only the left half of your body or the right. Hmmmm. As we all [androgynes and non-androgynes] learn more and more as we grow older, it is far easier to be ourselves and, thus, fulfill our lives and other's lives here on this world than it is to mask our Nature.

Although some persons have the stamp of the androgyne indelibly imprinted on their consciousness and their bodies [ergo DNA] at birth, the Nature of the androgyne is much wider in scope (and is not confined to persons who are born with an overt duality of gender). The Nature of the androgyne entails an union of opposites within that requires a great degree of self awareness, self acceptance and self actuality (beyond fear of Self and others) to Be fully expressed in one's individual life. To live the androgyne Nature is to experience the breadth of human being-ness. It is through the process of becoming self aware that the individual is enabled to embrace and integrate the (apparently) opposite poles of the psyche, thus awakening the Nature of the androgyne within her/his consciousness. In this manner, the masculine-feminine, anima-animus, intellect-intuition, analytic-Gestalt, left hemisphere-right hemisphere [of the brain], Yin-Yang, Time-Space, Light-Dark, Creative-Receptive, God-Goddess, Heaven-Earth... become One within the person and, paraphrasing the Holy Bible's New Testament, he/she becomes renewed in the Spirit of the mind (hence, the soul/psyche and, in varying degrees, the body -- please, understand that, other than a noticeable increase in vitality and regenerative capacity and [typically] in the expression of balance or personal harmony in the body language, voice and in the cast of the eyes, this internal transformation does not imply overt changes in one's physical [e.g. sexual] characteristics). While some persons have androgyny thrust upon them at birth, (impacting them spiritually, mentally, psychically and physically), most persons who incarnate in this manner become aware of their fundamental androgyne nature early on, (being awakened by It rather than awakening It), they too must go through many stages of self evolution to become fully conscious of who they are, to become self actualizing as people [who happen to be androgynes], to become the vital Force they are born to be in our communities and the world. The process of engendering the androgyne Nature in non-androgynes and that of fully actualizing one's Nature as androgyne-born is generally the same; it's an individual process of evolving consciousness that requires years of total commitment to becoming the highest and best that we can perceive ourselves to be in the face of misunderstanding and criticism from the world outside ourselves and, within ourselves, fear of rejection and ostracism; the fear is the killer, not the self evolution; evolving liberates, fear incarcerates, (and the self made prison is the worst kind).

It is to the understanding of the Nature of androgynes and androgyny that the following page is devoted. The links thereon are to web pages that examine the Nature of the androgyne intelligently and informatively. Some of these pages do this extensively and others only briefly, some of them simply include references to substantial reading material on the subject of androgynes and/or androgyny but are cool or informative pages nonetheless; the principle criterion for inclusion in this list is scholarly content that shines light on the darkness of ignorance and/or misunderstanding regarding the primary subjects to which these pages are devoted, whether those subjects are literary, religious/spiritual, sex and/or gender related or otherwise. They are grouped generally, though not in any particular order, most are in English, some are in French; they all possess an high level of quality of content. (This study also touches on issues relative to androgyny in the context of transexuality and intersexuality.) Hopefully, this study will help non-androgynes to become more aware of the scope of human being-ness as well as natural role androgynes fulfill in society (globally), in addition to helping androgynes to become more aware of the treasure they truly are.

(Among the growing number of books on this subject, one which the trust recommends is "Androgyny" by June Singer, Ph.D.. [From the liner notes in the Anchor Press/Doubleday paperback edition, ISBN: 0-385-11026-X] "'Dr. Singer explores various systems of ancient wisdom as well as revolutionary discoveries of Twentieth Century science, and offers deep insights into the nature of the masculine and feminine principles in the universe and their mutual interrelationships.' Stanislaus Grof, M.D., Esalen Institute". Excellent reading for androgynes and non-androgynes alike, even more so, it is a book which can assist us all in becoming more familiar and interactive with our full Nature as human beings, regardless of our personal gender and/or sexual orientation.)  excerpt from; Androgyne: The Union of Opposites within 

"This charming fantasy springs from the feeling side of man, and puts into words the sense of longing that lovers experience--whether for one of the other sex or for one of their own--that goes beyond any rational explanation.  Plato's Androgyne seems to be extinct, and only the myth remembered.  But, of course, the myth never remotely referred to a species existing on earth fitting that description, but rather to that celestial world of the imagination where all the immortal prototypes for Creation have always existed.  The prototypes, like so many ideas conceived in the brilliance of pure inspirations, go through successively disappointing transformations until they are brought forth as mere shadows of the original conception.  So it is with the Androgyne, who arose in the the collective unconscious of the human race as an archetype; that is, as a dark intimation of a potentiality, never fully to be realized." 

June Singer, "Androgyny: Toward a New Theory of Sexuality," by June Singer. 

excerpt from Plato's Myth site 

                        "There was a time, I say, when we were one, but now because of the wickedness of mankind God has dispersed us, as the Arcadians were dispersed into villages by the Lacedaemonians. And if we are not obedient to the gods, there is a danger that we shall be split up again and go about in basso-relievo, like the profile figures having only half a nose which are sculptured on monuments, and that we shall be like tallies. Wherefore let us exhort all men to piety, that we may avoid evil, and obtain the good, of which Love is to us the lord and minister; and let no one oppose him—he is the enemy of the gods who opposes him. For if we are friends of the God and at peace with him we shall find our own true loves, which rarely happens in this world at present. I am serious, and therefore I must beg Eryximachus not to make fun or to find any allusion in what I am saying to Pausanias and Agathon, who, as I suspect, are both of the manly nature, and belong to the class which I have been describing. But my words have a wider application—they include men and women everywhere; and I believe that if our loves were perfectly accomplished, and each one returning to his primeval nature had his original true love, then our race would be happy. And if this would be best of all, the best in the next degree and under present circumstances must be the nearest approach to such an union; and that will be the attainment of a congenial love".-Plato's Androgyne Myth (Symposium 189c–193e)

My True Self and way wish to live

Leadership Lessons from Plato   by Big Think Editors

         “The Myth of the Cave” is one of the most famous stories from The Republic. In it, Plato explains to his disciples that the mind sees what it wants, and ignores what it wants.

         Philosopher and novelist Rebecca Goldstein, the author of Plato at the Googleplex: Why Philosophy Won't Go Away, brings the Greek philosopher into the modern age. And by doing so, she explains why we should stop and reflect on his philosophies.


In this exclusive workshop for Big Think Edge, Goldstein breaks down leadership lessons from Plato and how we can apply them. The Republic may have been a work that you were forced to analyze in school, but in today’s sped-up business world, Plato’s lessons on ethics and self-knowledge are more important than ever.  

“It’s about, you know, making a life that’s big and meaningful, and that's going to make an impact, a good impact,” says Goldstein.


Self-knowledge and a checked ego are just some of the qualities of a good leader, according to Plato. He encouraged ambition—without it, people are not driven to leave a legacy, one that will benefit others for many years to come. Self-knowledge and a healthy dose of humility allow one to be open-minded and to make decisions that benefit the majority and not just preserve one’s own power.

 “That’s the core - what it is to be a good leader, and that’s the challenge,” she says.


-------------------------------------------I do think One has to Study the idea of Plato's Forms---------------------------------------------------------------

          Plato stated " Those that Lead must understand the "Forms " and my thought is ; Forms are "The Truths ".

          Also if One could describe " self-actualizing" in the most basic way it must be ; "Always seeking the Truths ".


The above paper by ARLENE W.SAXONHOUSE University of Michigan is a good read, a look at female in Socrates and Plato's time

  Fear of Diversity- Saxonhouse opens up fresh understandings of such issues as the Greeks’ fear of the feminine and their attempts to ignore the demands that gender, reproduction, and the family inevitably make on the individual.


Idios and Personal construct theory

            - pertaining to one's self,one's own

           Constructs are applied to anything we put our attention to, including ourselves, and also strongly influence what we fix our attention on. We construe reality constructing constructs. Hence, determining a person's system of constructs would go a long way towards understanding him, especially the person's essential constructs that represent very strong and unchangeable beliefs; and also the constructs a person applies to him/herself.
             " "Every man is, in his own particular way, a scientist," said Kelly, in that he is always building up and refining theories and models about how the world works so that he can anticipate events. We start on this at birth (for example, a child discovers, "if I cry, mother will come") and continue refining our theories as we grow up. We build theories—often stereotypes—about other people and also try to control them or impose on others our own theories so that we are better able to predict their actions. - Wikipedia

------------I think to Look at Female Ego and Male Ego, we must look at what is unique to each as a "Shield"-----------------------------------

      If our Ego's play a role as a Shield, thus protect us from our Fears,what does the female uniquely fear different then the male ?

                - Not being able to find a male in order to mate; bear children,social status

                - Will the mate be able to father a child, then be able to provide for the child and herself

                - Once the child is born,both the child and herself are highly vulnerable, thus protection by others, from others and                                 environment

                - Though forgotten now,at a time not so long ago,the female needed to be able to breast feed the child, only a female can                      do this.

                - Fear of losing a provider/father/mate at this time (very early child birth), must be very  vulnerable time.I often wonder for 

                    how long this vulnerability lasts; til puberty etc.and I believe at this time the father is very vulnerable to the

                    female's/motherly,need to take another mate,if he can not provide, to the degree- "it is her obligation"                                           -note; see the wolf pack scheme, as now the female and male ego's clash- and the male better not be lazy.


        If our Ego's play a role as a Shield, thus protect us from our Fears,what does the Male uniquely fear different then the female.

                - Not being able to find a female in order to mate.for sexual gratification and social status.bear children

                - Maintaining position as provider so family remains intact, more inclined to corruption,if lazy.must seem Manly even if a                         act, thus fears seeming "Feminine",worse the "public speaking", fears his mate "thinking of himself feminine,or being

                    viewed by society as feminine". If he is Lazy,he is very vulnerable to "Cronyism" Collective narcissism.

Individual Collective
I wish people would recognize my authority I wish other people would recognize the authority of my group
I have natural talent for influencing people My group has all predispositions to influence others
If I ruled the world it would be a much better place If my group ruled the world it would be a much better place
I am an extraordinary person My group is extraordinary
I like to be the center of attention I like when my group is the center of attention
I will never be satisfied until I get what I deserve I will never be satisfied until my group gets all that it deserves
I insist upon getting the respect that is due to me I insist upon my group getting the respect that is due to it
I want to amount to something in the eyes of the world I want my group to amount to something in the eyes of the world
People never give me enough recognition for the things I've done Not many people seem to understand the full importance of my group

               - Thus inflated Ego, brought on by being Lazy,and Social Construct.


Equal of both male and female ego's is likely;  "The need to Attract ", this can come in many forms, they can be "Truths" or "Lies", 

Males and Females most likely equally vulnerable to "Lies at some point in their lives",especially by way of "Pretending". As a Androgynous person I have been in the position of wanting to Attract both a female or a male,I am  lucky I have always avoided being dishonest in presenting a "false self ", to a mate . And even now, though I prefer to be in the in the "Female role", I can be with either sex,just not in "Male role"(use your imagination).


--------------------------------I do believe Females have to greatest Power Collectively---------------------------------------------------------------------

                      Just imagine if all the "Ladies" got together,and said to all the men,across the World in "Unity",..

                 -------------------------------" No more Sex for You's til you shape up!-------------------------------------

                      Be a lot of Males shaping up,I do Imagine---So this is a Uniquely Male Ego trait (fear), one reason,collectively,women                           where not allowed to vote until August 18, 1920 in the United States.

                 Porn is only good for so long!

------------------------A part of the Bible which always caught my attention is "Cleanliness is next to Godliness"-----------------------------------

       Though simple, It amazes me when going to the grocery store,seeing all the toilet papers, makes me wonder how evolved are            we really, in a modern society "to wipe one's bottom with a dry piece of paper, imagine just washing one's hands with a dry piece        of paper! "- we must evolve ,and get creativity and it starts in the most basic of ways.



I though this is a interesting discussion of differences between male/female

     Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson 

I think Paula Stone Williams gives great talk about male/female differences.