The berdache and the converge ,

                     HUNTER-GATHERERS TO FARMERS

                                                First Agricultural Revolution


        For myself ,written history , protrays this " Converge " as though people just woke up one morning, and decided ;

                                                         " Lets just stay in this camp spot, and grow stuff "

                                                           when in fact it had to of take thousands of years

                                     In Fact the Majority of Us are again Hunter/Gathers, as most people don't farm Now

Archaeological data indicates that the domestication of various types of plants and animals happened in separate locations worldwide, starting in the geological epoch of the Holocene[4] around 12,500 years ago.[5] It was the world's first historically verifiable revolution in agriculture. The Neolithic Revolution greatly narrowed the diversity of foods available, resulting in a downturn in the quality of human nutrition.[6]

The earliest known civilization developed in Sumer in southern Mesopotamia (  6,500 BP); its emergence also heralded the beginning of the Bronze Age.[7]

Social  behaviors

Social behaviors can be categorized according to the fitness consequences they entail for the actor and recipient.

  • Mutually beneficial – a behavior that increases the direct fitness of both the actor and the recipient
  • Selfish – a behavior that increases the direct fitness of the actor, but the recipient suffers a loss
  • Altruistic – a behavior that increases the direct fitness of the recipient, but the actor may suffer a loss
  • Spiteful – a behavior that decreases the direct fitness of both the actor and the recipient

This classification was proposed by W. D. Hamilton, arguing that natural selection favors mutually beneficial or selfish behaviors. Hamilton's insight was to show how kin selection could explain altruism and spite.[2][3]

Dunbar points out  that in a primate social system, lower-ranking females will typically suffer the most intense harassment. Consequently, they will be the first to form coalitions in self-defence. But maintaining commitment from coalition allies involves much time-consuming manual grooming, putting pressure on time-budgets. In the case of evolving humans, who were living in increasingly large groups, the costs would soon have outweighed the benefits — unless some more efficient way of maintaining relationships could be found. Dunbar argues that 'vocal grooming' — using the voice to signal commitment — was the time-saving solution adopted, and that this led eventually to speech. Dunbar goes on to suggest (citing evolutionary anthropologist Chris Knight[39][40]) that distinctively human society may have been evolved under pressure from female ritual and 'gossiping' coalitions established to dissuade males from fighting one another and instead cooperate in hunting for the benefit of the whole camp: 


    if females formed the core of these early groups, and language evolved to bond these groups, it naturally follows that the early human females were the first to speak. This reinforces the suggestion that language was first used to create a sense of emotional solidarity between allies. Chris Knight has argued a passionate case for the idea that language first evolved to allow the females in these early groups to band together to force males to invest in them and their offspring, principally by hunting for meat. This would be consistent with the fact that, among modern humans, women are generally better at verbal skills than men, as well as being more skillful in the social domain.

— Dunbar, R. I. M. 1996. Grooming, Gossip and the Evolution of Language. London: Faber and Faber, p. 149.

Dunbar stresses that this is currently a minority theory among specialists in human origins — most still support the 'bison-down-at-the-lake' theory attributing early language and cooperation to the imperatives of men's activities such as hunting. Despite this, he argues that 'female bonding may have been a more powerful force in human evolution than is sometimes supposed'.[41] Although still controversial, the idea that female coalitions may have played a decisive role has subsequently received strong support from a number of anthropologists including Sarah Hrdy,[42] Camilla Power,[43] Ian Watts.[44] and Jerome Lewis.[45] It is also consistent with recent studies by population geneticists (see Verdu et al. 2013 [46] for Central African Pygmies; Schlebusch 2010[47] for Khoisan) showing a deep-time tendency to matrilocality among African hunter-gatherers.

              Did the "berdache / female-roled male play a important mediator between the women and men ?

                      1, as the berdache , if since puberty, had formed a close bond with both the women and men in the                               tribe by spending much time with the women in their duties, and being a passive sexual partner
                            for the males ?
                                                        Must remember there would be few strangers in a group of say 200-300

                      2. Wood gathering, once fire was used for cooking,trapping ; was this a role of the berdache

Gender and origins

Feminist scholars — among them palaeoanthropologists Leslie Aiello and Camilla Power — take similar arguments a step further, arguing that any reform or revolution which overthrew male dominance must surely have been led by women. Evolving human females, Power and Aiello suggest, actively separated themselves from males on a periodic basis, using their own blood (and/or pigments such as red ochre) to mark themselves as fertile and defiant:

The sexual division of labor entails differentiation of roles in food procurement, with logistic hunting of large game by males, co-operation and exchange of products. Our hypothesis is that symbolism arose in this context. To minimize energetic costs of travel, coalitions of women began to invest in home bases. To secure this strategy, women would have to use their attractive, collective signal of impending fertility in a wholly new way: by signalling refusal of sexual access except to males who returned "home" with provisions. Menstruation — real or artificial — while biologically the wrong time for fertile sex, is psychologically the right moment for focusing men's minds on imminent hunting, since it offers the prospect of fertile sex in the near future.

— Power, C. and L. C. Aiello 1997. Female proto-symbolic strategies. In L. D. Hager (ed.), Women in Human Evolution. New York and London: Routledge, pp. 153–171; p. 159.

In similar vein, anthropologist Chris Knight argues that Boehm's idea of a 'coalition of everyone' is hard to envisage, unless — along the lines of a modern industrial picket line — it was formed to co-ordinate 'sex-strike' action against badly behaving males:

....male dominance had to be overthrown because the unending prioritising of male short-term sexual interests could lead only to the permanence and institutionalisation of behavioural conflict between the sexes, between the generations and also between rival males. If the symbolic, cultural domain was to emerge, what was needed was a political collectivity — an alliance — capable of transcending such conflicts. ... Only the consistent defence and self-defence of mothers with their offspring could produce a collectivity embodying interests of a sufficiently broad, universalistic kind.

— Knight, C. 1991. Blood Relations. Menstruation and the origins of culture. New Haven and London: Yale University Press, p. 514

The berdache,  if hypersexual"Nymphomaniac" ...which I was to a extreme nature between 1998-2005

                                                                Mating with men in a female-role

                                         Yet have always been psychologically been in a type of;

                                   " receptive need to be bred state if proper male was encountered"

                                                  For example, All conditions are right,the males personality,socially how I see him,ethics etc.

                                                                        If he presents himself in proper " light ", even if have known for a very short time,

                                                                        he sees, myself as possibly a male whom might take the female role, then ;

                                                                             Very directly asks me for examples something like ;"Michael do you like"

                                                                                  to suck cock , getting fucked, big cock ,etc

               Which in reality many men have asked me directly, and I like them to, if I find them suited for myself, if that was the case,

                and conditions right , had a place to do it, I would give them a " blow-job " right then.

                    If they tasted good , once I had their cock out and licked it, "got a taste",  if all was well, I'd start sucking with objective of                     taking them to ejaculation, if they treated me very well through this process, I'd most likely take their semen in my mouth

                    and swallow it.

                Thus the Berdache and Straight male bond is form, as Now, especially if single,.. this male knowns I am available,and very 

                   receptive to him, easy to get a "blow-job", If he continues to ask me , and it becomes routine, I would ask him if he could

                   " take me in my "bottom", and pretend I am a female, "bred me "

                 Once a Man "took me" anally, got his cock up in me, ejaculated up in me, a good "bond' normally occurred, and most likely

                    he would routinely start seeing me for a "blow-job" or if had time/place he would take me anally.

       One must remember , say for example the men from my " Last Man Standing " parties where men of wealth, power, leaders etc.

                   They nearly all where routinely seeing me for sexual pleasure as a berdache, all where "taking me anally"

                   ,ejaculating in me

                                                                                         My point here,

                           being the Berdache, grew up in the tribe as a Female roled male, since puberty had bonded with many,if not

                           all the males sexually, All the males whom would go on to be the leaders,as well as the workers.

                Another point about at least my " Model " of the berdache is ;   berdache are not attracted to another berdache

                                    a very important defining difference of berdache from what current society calls "gay "

  " The central distinction in ancient Greek sexual relations was between taking an active or

   insertive role, versus a passive or penetrated one. The passive role was acceptable only for                        inferiors, such as women, slaves, or male youths who were not yet citizens."

                                                                                                                               - plato.stanford.edu

                             Thus , myself identifying as berdache, I only take the "passive role " 

                               How this desire came to be ? is for science to figure out, yet I know to be in the "insertive role"

                        is some thing I have never done, nore could ever do under any circumstance, I am 100% passive roled.

                  Personally for myself, because I took the "passive role" at age 13, liked it, as though it where perfect for me,

                     especially after being penetrated anally and receiving my friends semen into me, I did become hypersexual,

                     so my friends had a good resource for their own sex drive, which was hypersexual yet as "penetrators", so

                  for a short while nearly everyday at school, we had a secret meeting stop, where I would meet them ,suck their cock

                   til they ejaculated in my mouth, then after school, if possible, we might meet at a sercet wooded area, where they

                  could take me anally and ejaculate in my bottom, this only went on for aprox. 3 months. However, unless I had

                  Stopped , due to Rumors being spread, other males asking me to suck their cocks etc. , Let say the culture was

                   One where the " Berdache role" was established, then I would not of stopped and would of contuined to in my

                   berdache role, most likely until the male met a girl and became involved in a "steady" relationship, if it was a short

                   lived relationship, they would come back to me for sexual pleasure, I seen this a lot in my 1998-2005 relationships,

                   a man would date a female awhile, it didn't jive, so he'd call and I'd pleasure him again for awhile, over and over,

                                   Many would tell me that I was their only " berdache " (they call me fem-male, or tell me;

                                   maybe that I was the only ' boy-pussy " they where fucking, for example I had such a;

                                     large "tribe", established by 2001, and who knows why,could been how the Moon was!,

                                     I might have 5-10 men call in one day !,wanting a blow-job, so if at all possible I'd see them.

                                Though not common, it occurred, usually I would give at least one blow-job or get fucked everyday,

                                                         Yet if in a setting of a small village, where all walked as would of been in

                                   1700's North America native life, I'd likely had the males "fuck me", especially if stream/river close

                                                 where I could get in water waist deep,as then they could easily get their cocks up in me,

                                                     no lube needed,water is the lube, naturally clean due to running water!,

                                                 I know from experience, as well being "double teamed" by two men at once,

                                                                                               many times.

                                                         If the weather was warm enough , and I was a berdache in a tribe (in 1700 for example)

                                   It would of been easy to have 20-30 males fuck me til they ejaculated, in a manner of few hours


I'd poopy down stream,scrub my bottom with cattail if didn't have soap,we get in beaver pond where they'd fuck me

                                                    However the point, I wish to make here is; Once I took that Role,

                                                                                It was a Point of No Return

                                                      Even though I went on to get married etc, try to be a normal male,

                                                            In my heart I always Longed to be in my "Berdache role"

                                                              Longed to have a Man's penis in me " In simple terms "

                                               And that the "Berdache" role was, I my opinion part of Human Evolution,

                                                                   Yet " Overlooked " due to sexual / erotic stigma

                                                    on the grounds there in no time in history, that it isn't noted

                                                                         Just has had a lot of different " titles "


                                                                    And Once a "Berdache", always a berdache!

                                                                           Cause as Berdache we Love Cock!

                                                                                      (and what cum out of it )

                                                                       That is as long as the Man behaves well!


                                                             The Greeks

"Hence the cultural ideal of a same-sex relationship was between an older man, probably in his 20's or 30's, known as the erastes, and a boy whose beard had not yet begun to grow, the eromenos or paidika. In this relationship there was courtship ritual, involving gifts (such as a rooster), and other norms. The erastes had to show that he had nobler interests in the boy, rather than a purely sexual concern.

The boy was not to submit too easily, and if pursued by more than one man, was to show discretion and pick the more noble one. There is also evidence that penetration was often avoided by having the erastes face his beloved and place his penis between the thighs of the eromenos, which is known as intercrural sex. The relationship was to be temporary and should end upon the boy reaching adulthood "plato.stanford.edu

Many scholars hold 400 bc Ancient Greece(Plato) to be the High point of human social development / psychology / cognitively

 thus the bench mark for advance, we keep trying to advance from current Ideology which is judged by technology,religious morals,
                                                                                  Pre-Concieved Notions
                                                                                       thus blinded by it.


Biotic resources and their management in ancient Greece has been a considerably studied and widely debated issue. To some scholars, ancient Greece was a land of noble forests and crystal fountains which were subsequently destroyed by human activities to result in the present day arid and degraded landscape. Others argue that the present landscape is not much different from the ancient one. Nevertheless, all agree that the climate was Mediterranean-type, perhaps a lit-tle cooler and less arid than today. Flora and fauna were not much different from the present ones. Forests were regularly exploited but mainly produced wood rather than timber. Agriculture was based on cultivation of small fields (2-4 ha). Production aimed at self-sufficiency and involved multiple cultures as well as crop rotation. Livestock husbandry was based on forage resources pro-duced both in arable and wild lands. Hunting was practiced for social (e.g. prestige) and political rather than economic reasons It is concluded that the physical environment of ancient Greece was complex and diversified and Greeks had learned to live quite well within its limitations- researchgate

Berdache and the Amazons

Up to 25% of military burials were of armed Sarmatian women usually including bows.[139] Russian archaeologist Vera Kovalevskaya points out that when Scythian men were away fighting or hunting, nomadic women would have to be able to defend themselves, their animals and pasture-grounds competently. During the time that the Scythians advanced into Asia and achieved near-hegemony in the Near East, there was a period of twenty-eight years when the men would have been away on campaigns for long periods. During this time the women would not only have had to defend themselves, but to reproduce, and this could well be the origin of the idea that Amazons mated once a year with their neighbours, if Herodotus actually based his accounts on fact.[139]

Before modern archaeology uncovered some of the Scythian burials of warrior-maidens entombed under kurgans in the region of Altai Mountains and Sarmatia,[140] [141] giving concrete form at last to the Greek tales, the origin of the Amazon story had been the subject of speculation among classics scholars. 

Evidence of high-ranking warrior women comes from kurgans in southern Ukraine and Russia. David Anthony notes, "About 20% of Scythian-Sarmatian 'warrior graves' on the lower Don and lower Volga contained women dressed for battle similar to how men dress, a phenomenon that probably inspired the Greek tales about the Amazons."[138]

Mounted Amazon in Scythian costume, on an Attic red-figure vase, 420 BC

Up to 25% of military burials were of armed Sarmatian women usually including bows.